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Lets organize Freedom Flotilla to help Kurds!
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quark
2010-06-19 18:53:22 UTC
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Turks are killing and oppressing Kurds.
Lets organize Freedom Flotilla to help Kurds!
http://www.fas.org/asmp/profiles/turkey_background_kurds.htm
While the majority of Turkey's Kurds do not openly support separatism
from the Turkish state, many do support the PKK, as the only force
fighting for broader Kurdish cultural, economic and political rights.
The state immediately responded to this threat with increased force,
deploying some 300,000 troops in the southeast at an annual cost of $8
billion. In addition, the Turkish armed forces instituted a system of
"village guards," paying and arming Kurds to keep the PKK guerillas
out of their villages. Villages that refuse to participate in the
guard system face demolition by the Turkish military, while those that
go along suffer under harsh reprisals by the PKK.
The war escalated dramatically in the early 1990s. Between 1984-91, an
estimated 2,500 people had been killed. Over the next four years, that
figure shot up to 20,000. Some 3,000 villages have been destroyed by
the military in an effort to rout out PKK sympathizers, creating more
than 2 million refugees.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Turkey
Turkey's treatment of its citizens of Kurdish origin has been a
frequent subject of international criticism.
Kurds have largely resisted assimilation policies of the government.
The main strategy for assimilation has been suppression of the Kurdish
language.
[...]
http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-world/turkey-says-130-...
 Turkey says 130 Kurdish rebels killed
[...]
Na zasadzie 'flotylli' wysylanych z Auschwitz do Workuty i z Workuty
do Auschwitz.
rick murphy
2010-06-19 22:46:33 UTC
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PKK is not pursuing human rights for the citizens of Turkiye of
Kurdish descend. PKK is a marxist, leninist, communist terrorist
organization responsible for the death of nearly 45 thousands innocent
lives and many hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damage to
property and business. Its aim is just to destroy the democratic
Republic of Turkiye and establish a marxist, lenninist, communist PKK
terrorist dictatorship. Supporting a brutal murderous terrorist
organization is illegal in any country in the World. Any citizen of
Turkiye is unconditionally free to pursue solutions for the problems
and issues he/she thinks exists by legal, democratic and peaceful
ways. Nevertheless, Greece and Greek Cyprus, Armenia, French, Syria,
Russia and many European countries support PKK and harbor it just to
destroy Turkey.
quark
2010-06-19 22:58:49 UTC
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Post by rick murphy
PKK is not pursuing human rights for the citizens of Turkiye of
Kurdish descend.  PKK is a marxist, leninist, communist  terrorist
organization responsible for the death of nearly 45 thousands innocent
lives and many hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damage to
property and business. Its aim is just to destroy the democratic
Republic of Turkiye and establish a marxist, lenninist, communist  PKK
terrorist dictatorship.  Supporting a brutal murderous terrorist
organization is illegal in any country in the World.  Any citizen of
Turkiye is unconditionally free to pursue solutions for the problems
and issues he/she thinks exists by legal, democratic and peaceful
ways.  Nevertheless, Greece and Greek Cyprus, Armenia, French, Syria,
Russia and many European countries support PKK and harbor it just to
destroy Turkey.
Since PKK is operating also on the Iranien side of the border, it was
getting material support from Israel.
In USA this fact was raised sever times as an issue of the confused US
foreign policy -- since Isreal was working here as a surrogate for
CIA.
The PKK is on the State Dept list of terrorist grups.

s.

Israel/Middle East (News & Politics): Kurdistan Worker's Party
(PKK ...
... Israel/Middle East (News & Politics) > Kurdistan Worker's Party
(PKK) Israel/Middle East ... Tom Casey, Deputy Spokesman for the US
State Department, was asked in a press briefing held ...

en.allexperts.com/q/Israel-Middle-East-352/Kurdistan-Worker-Party-
PKK-1.htm · Cached page
ADR
2010-06-19 23:07:07 UTC
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Post by rick murphy
PKK is not pursuing human rights for the citizens of Turkiye of
Kurdish descend.  PKK is a marxist, leninist, communist  terrorist
organization responsible for the death of nearly 45 thousands innocent
lives and many hundreds of billions of dollars worth of damage to
property and business. Its aim is just to destroy the democratic
Republic of Turkiye and establish a marxist, lenninist, communist  PKK
terrorist dictatorship.  Supporting a brutal murderous terrorist
organization is illegal in any country in the World.  Any citizen of
Turkiye is unconditionally free to pursue solutions for the problems
and issues he/she thinks exists by legal, democratic and peaceful
ways.  Nevertheless, Greece and Greek Cyprus, Armenia, French, Syria,
Russia and many European countries support PKK and harbor it just to
destroy Turkey.
The fact that an organization is marxist and leninist does not
preclude it from fighting for the human rights or autonomy of a given
ethnic group. As for being "terrorist", this is in the eye of the
beholder. Yesterday's terrorists may be tomorrow's freedom fighters.
The citizens of the Republic of Turkey should not forget that their
own state begun as a revolt against the legitimate authorities.

One should not interpret support for the PKK as a wish to destroy
Turkey. One may want to rights of the Kurdish population to be
safeguarded and enhance and one may want the best for Turkey at the
same time. This talk of "destroying Turkey" is just a red herring.
The rights of Kurds are not necessarily antithetical to the welfare of
Turkey.

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